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Wolves, the prey of the French State

Wolves, the prey of the French State

Wolves, the prey of the French State
08.11.2019
France
Wolves, the prey of the French State
Wildlife

In politics, if you want to be credible, you have to be concerned with consistency. Difficult for the Ministry of Ecology to assume the persecution of a protected species. So, in order not to burn their fingers on sensitive material, they delegate their management, they strengthen the skills of a Prefect, as though they pass on a hot potato. But when an association like ours takes offense, it is forced to show its true face and recognize its position… Yes, in France, the massacre of wolves is carried out with the consent of government officials who are supposed to defend them!

Since the wolf population has painfully reached the threshold of 500 individuals, more and more our country seems not to care about its role in protection, but to work to decimate it.

From speeches to action, the big gap

Officially, however, the government is keeping up with the hype. They say they feel concerned about the decline in the biodiversity and the preservation of the wildlife. They claim to encourage cohabitation between wolves and humans… But it is with guns that he settles the question! Because in reality, it is by legitimizing the large-scale massacres of wild canids that the leaders put breeders and hunters in their pockets.

It’s not me, it’s someone else

To avoid having too much blood of a species–especially one who is protected-on their hands, and to be caught in the act of contradiction, the central power has found the parade… By the decree of September 12th 2018, it designated a Prefect to coordinate the national wolf action plan. Until December 31st 2023, it will be the Prefect of the Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes region, who « drives and coordinates the action of the Prefects of all the departments concerned by the national action plan on wolves for the implementation of the said plan”. Among other prerogatives, the magistrate was given unusual skills. He can « specify » the conditions for applying the decrees of the ministers responsible for ecology and agriculture. More prosaically, it is empowered to make exceptions to measures to protect species of wild fauna and flora. And decide, in this case, to joyfully increase the rate of « removal » of wolves, within the « limit » of 2% of the average size of their population estimated annually. But why stop there? Beyond this threshold, shootings called « simple defence », have been approved by the Prefects of the departments and are still possible! A wolf around? Hunters are called to the rescue! Let us recognize that this delegation of the “license to kill”, this dilution of responsibilities at all levels of the state apparatus, opens the door to the worst abuses… Without anyone-and this is the whole perversity of the system-being directly incriminated.

Recourse to the State Council

In November 2018, by a gracious appeal, we called on the Prime Minister to cancel his decree of September 12th. Our request having remained literally a dead letter, we seized the State Council in March 2019. For the moment, the latter has not yet been decided. But we already know that the Ministry of Ecological and Inclusive Transition is neither on our side or that of the of wolves. On October 7th, he sent a letter to the President of the Council asking him to reject our request. Thus, even the institution is supposed to be officially in charge of protecting the nature in our country, though it prefers to submit to the demands of farmers and hunters! Rather than establishing an alternative and an ethical solution to pastoral problems, rather than giving back their full place to these marvellous and sentient beings whose ancestors we have already persecuted, it lets lobbies take hold of the subject, put pressure on local elected officials (and in turn on state representatives) to spread slander!

Fanaticism and obscurantism

The return of wolves to France has raised deeply archaic fears. Even if, God and devil are not as much invited to the debate as in medieval times, the great predators find themselves as formerly hunted down on all sides, victims of terrible prejudices born of simple ignorance or skilfully maintained by those who want their skin. Treated like “monsters”, “game” or just like bulky competitors, they fall one after the other. These wolves, who have barely risen from the ashes, are dying again on the earth where, however, their ancestors and ours knew how to live together in peace, in the distant past… It was a very long time ago, during Prehistory. Long before Homo sapiens, under the influence of frenzied beliefs, believed himself one day to be the king of « Creation » and suddenly saw in the eyes of the wolf, his brother from a yester year, the look of the « Evil one » in his eyes. Do we want to once again stray from the path of wisdom? Do we really want to exterminate everything that reminds us of our wild origins and our own animality? The French government can always argue that 500 individuals are enough to make a species viable, we know, as well as scientists, that this is not the case. In fact, the Court of Justice of the European Union has just extended the precautionary principle to protected species. Doubt must therefore benefit them! Above all, like everyone else, the right to exist.

Until this hearing

While waiting to be at the State Council to defend them, we will in November 2019 be in these places:

  • 11/19/2019 at the Lyon Court of Appeal against the Prefect of Savoy who appealed the decision of the Grenoble administrative court to have declared illegal his decree of September 10, 2015. This judgment had saved three wolves out of the 6 planned to be shot.

Dog training: the law of the strongest?

Dog training: the law of the strongest?

Dog training: the law of the strongest?
06.11.2019
France
Dog training: the law of the strongest?
Domestic animals

We are to be sued by the High Court of Valencia for having, it is said, « tainted the entirety of a profession » by denouncing some of the methods that are used in dog training circles, images and testimonies to support.

They had asked for a postponement of the hearing, we did not oppose it, it was up to the court to decide.

On November 5th, the President of the 1st Chamber categorically opposed any dismissal, even in the short term, believing that the case was in good condition. There was therefore no argument. The matter was put under deliberation ration on January 14th 2020.

The survey dates back to 2014-2017. Several reported cases have led our investigators to infiltrate dog training centres. They brought back facts, images and statements that are spine chilling.

A report, supported by the analysis of a behaviourist veterinarian, and articles followed, reporting unprecedented brutality against dogs, committed in front of children (a fine example of education). We have produced scientific studies on the damage that can result from such activities, which psychologically break individuals to subject them to the law of the « master ».

For having presented these facts, around thirty professionals are asking us today for more than 170,000 euros for « collective denigration ».

Freedom of expression!

We are accused of misinformation when raw facts were filmed and we have also highlighted the training centres of this profession practicing methods of care, for balanced dogs and not to be traumatized, those who are willingly to learn are abandoned if they do not obey the finger and the eye.

By underlining the Link, this scientifically substantiated relationship between violence committed against animals and that against humans in the vicinity, we have highlighted the fact that brutality is neither an end in itself nor as animal psychology, but that it can have serious consequences. This remains visibly incomprehensible to many canine educators…

A question of respect above all

If the investigations of the Zoé Cell, our ear on the ground against cruelty, produced scenes of maltreatment proven in various canine clubs, whose fault is it? One Voice has only denounced a pedagogy based on training and brutality, highlighting its shortcomings and consequences while stressing that other canine education methods, ethical and sustainable, exist…

As a non-violent association committed for 25 years in the respect of all animals, we are proud to have denounced practices unworthy of fear of seeing them become widespread. We repeat: there is a positive and non-violent education of dogs provided by professionals. Many dogs are affected and we are talking about respect for others. We hope for the foresight of justice. Otherwise all excesses are allowed, the debate is no longer public and no progress is possible.

Justice for Cersei

Justice for Cersei

Justice for Cersei
04.11.2019
Bouches-du-Rhône Justice for Cersei
Wildlife

An animal obviously trafficked, Cersei was taken from her mother in her early weeks of life. This little lioness was found in great distress by customs officials, on the premises of a Marseille garage, a year ago. Taken care of quickly, she was able to be saved. How many wild beasts, often born in circuses, are still regularly victims of this trade? The culprits must be condemned! For Cersei, we will be present at the hearing November 4th.

Cersei was in a deplorable state when seized by the customs services in October 2018. Locked in the premises of a Marseille car garage, the little lioness – only a few weeks old and therefore not weaned – showed multiple signs of abuse. Her almost hairless body revealed scarlet skin, the result of acute inflammation. With a very swollen belly and eyes with corneal ulcers, this poor little girl was sweating in fear and pain. Thanks to the intervention of the authorities, she was first entrusted to the Marseille SPA, then transferred by the gendarmes to the Tonga Terre d’Accueil association, where it received care for a year. Recently, she was taken by plane that was organized by the Born Free Foundation to a sanctuary in South Africa. Cersei is now out of danger!

The tragic fate of lion cubs

This happy outcome should not obscure the tragedy of the case. What was Cersei doing in the hands of an individual? Torn from her mother, certainly the captive of a circus where births are not followed up by the authorities. We immediately lodged a complaint on her behalf in October 2018. Her jailer is a well-known individual with the police force and has a very rich record. He was notably condemned for acts of robbery with a weapon and the kidnapping of his own daughter, which earned him a stay in prison! And there is no lack of assurance here. During the hearings, the garage owner embarked on explanations that were full of words but vague, even going so far as to consider himself as the savior of Cersei!

Protect the big cats from traffic

We have brought a civil action against this man for the acts of detention of a protected species without authorization, as well as for the detention of specimens classified as wild species threatened with extinction. The hearing will take place this Monday, November 4th 2019 at 8:30 a.m. at the Tribunal de Grande Instance in Marseille. We hope that light will be shed on the origins of Cersei who is a sanctuary, unlike his mother…

Help for captive wildlife!

On October 8th 2018, a new decree had officially attempted to specify the conditions for keeping non-domestic animals. But the rules were still far too vague! They did not close the door on the worst trafficking of all because they only supervised the detention of « adult » individuals.

Thus, young animals who have not yet reached reproductive age were not protected by the law and their « owners » could do things that were uncontrolled! Anyone wishing to acquire a baby elephant or furnish their living room with a baby hippopotamus did not need to burden themselves with prior authorization and a certificate of competence or even a simple declaration.

We therefore petitioned a civil action for excess of power against this order in December 2018, followed by an interim measure in suspension. The summary judge of the Council of the State heard us on January 23rd and it is a magnificent victory!

A court hearing against the Prefect of the Drôme to release Jumbo!

A court hearing against the Prefect of the Drôme to release Jumbo!

A court hearing against the Prefect of the Drôme to release Jumbo!
22.10.2019
Drôme
A court hearing against the Prefect of the Drôme to release Jumbo!
Exploitation for shows

A new hearing at the Administrative Court of Grenoble for Jumbo. It will be held on October 29th as part of our appeal against the Prefecture of Drôme. Rather than facing up to the reality of a hippopotamus being mistreated the Prefecture prefers to hide his face.

It is with the upmost patience that we continue our fight for Jumbo. On October 29th, we will be at the Administrative Court of Grenoble to denounce once again the living conditions of this hippopotamus, sequestered by the Muller circus and the unacceptable sit back and do-nothing attitude of the administrative authorities vis-à-vis its torturers.

A new appeal against the prefecture of Drôme

Already two years have passed while we have waited for this hearing… they now intervene following our appeal, going back to 2017, an affair which has opposed us from the beginning, the Prefecture of the Drôme being the biggest hindrance. For the record, we filed a law suit against this institution for « excess of authority » after it refused to place Jumbo into a sanctuary, despite flagrant evidence of abuse that we have presented. Our proof is damning… It shows that the most basic needs of this hippopotamus, sequestered for 30 years now, are not respected and that his life, one that is deprived of water, is a living hell.

Inspections and illusions

But the Prefecture has preferred to hide behind inspection reports not mentioning any particular problems. It must be said that the visits by veterinarians are usually announced or even made at the request of the circus when it suits them! An inspector told Le Point magazine in 2017 that she had not performed a clinical examination of Jumbo, that she had not carried out a clinical examination of Jumbo, that she had not even touched him at the time when the hippos « owners » had urged her to establish a health status of the animal! She also acknowledged that she could not know if the “conditions were satisfactory” she had observed where the circus had parked up in the cities where the touring show was performing… We suspect that in honouring the planned visits of the veterinarian, the Muller circus had for once observed decorum and deployed all its resources to persuade the outcome of the inspection…

On the side of reality

On our side, we followed Jumbo tracing every movement of the circus. And we know the realities of his ordeal. Our investigations, the reports from our experts, attest to his immense distress. As for his torturers, we have had many opportunities to have witnessed first-hand their violence, both verbal and physical, from those who do not think as us: our teams have largely paid the price. Witness the screenshots on their Facebook page, included in the article of the newspaper Le Point, where we see their high degree of reflection and argumentation… It is of upmost urgency that Jumbo be removed from their clutches; his survival is at stake. In the wake of our appeal against the Prefecture of October 29th to the administrative court of Grenoble, the lawsuit we filed against the circus Muller for ill-treatment – the first of its kind in France – will be held a month later in Valencia.

Please continue to support our action for Jumbo by signing our petition !

Laboratory of Pharmacology and Toxicology (LPT): Hell exists

Laboratory of Pharmacology and Toxicology (LPT): Hell exists

Laboratory of Pharmacology and Toxicology (LPT): Hell exists
15.10.2019
European Union
Laboratory of Pharmacology and Toxicology (LPT): Hell exists
Animal testing

The German NGO Soko Tierschutz lifts the veil behind the scenes at the Laboratory of Pharmacology and Toxicology (LPT). An appalling return to an investigation into animal experiments which are performed out of sight, in defiance of the law and of all humanity. With Cruelty Free International, we call for the closure of this establishment and the abolition of cruel, unnecessary and outdated tests!

Image: SOKO Tierschutz/Cruelty Free International

Translucent pipettes, white coats, bluish protective masks, examination gloves and matching turquoise eyes… The internet showcase of the Laboratory of Pharmacology and Toxicology (LPT) in Germany, shines with cleanliness and for good reason. This organization, which claims excellence in the field of toxicological research, works for pharmaceutical, industrial and agrochemical companies around the world in order to meet the requirements of governments and regulatory authorities. So, it is better not to have dirty hands.

Please note, the images are particularly shocking.

The lab of horrors

But this sanitized atmosphere actually turns out to be a smoke screen. Which camouflages abominable atrocities. The NGO Soko Tierschutz and our partner Cruelty Free International managed to infiltrate the laboratory. The images they bring back are unbearable. Goodbye immaculate walls and mattresses, here blood is spurting from all sides. That of the monkeys, cats, dogs and rabbits who are massacred with the soul aim to provide statistics to the researchers. Toxicity tests involve poisoning animals, this is how scientists hope to determine how much a chemical or drug can cause serious harm, and what the « safe » dosage for humans would be. Subject to injections, forced to eat or inhale increasing amounts of harmful substances, guinea pigs are victims of vomiting, internal bleeding, respiratory distress, fever, weight loss, lethargy, skin problems or organic insufficiency before dying. No aesthetic, no pain relief is provided. It is in terror, the screams and appalling suffering that they agonize and/or die, alone, deep in their dungeons.

Tormented for nothing

As in December 2014, we are relaying this survey from our partners, in order to once again denounce what is happening in the laboratories in this country, in violation of European and German laws. We also issue an emergency appeal to the international community to end animal testing, as vile as it is useless. These tests are unreliable predictors for humans, as each species often reacts differently to the same substance. They therefore do not guarantee safe and effective drugs. On the other hand, they demonstrate to what extent the border between « good » and « evil » has very vague outlines in the minds of some… For us, it is clear: barbarism has no place in a society that claims to be civilized.

Mina and Kamala, still struggling within the circus

Mina and Kamala, still struggling within the circus

Mina and Kamala, still struggling within the circus
10.10.2019
Mina and Kamala, still struggling within the circus

One Voice leads a nonviolent fight to defend animal rights and respect all life forms. The organization operates independently and is thus free to speak and act freely.

Criticized for its actions with wildlife, the Medrano circus has released their big game this summer. With a great deal of communication, he opened the doors of his business to the public to prove how happy « his » animals were. Many visitors were seduced by his polished speech. And the austere place of detention of the elephants Mina and Kamala has emerged as an idyllic vacation spot for some. Some clarification required here.

It
is well known: « The bigger it is, the more it makes ».
Propagandists of all kinds have understood this for a long time.
Circassians exploiting wild animals in the worst conditions are no
exception to the rule. Some do not hesitate to proclaim their love
for their four-legged « teammates », their will to act for
the protection of species and respect for other living beings! …
Cirque Medrano is one of them. Behind this false façade are the
charming smiles and beautiful speeches, he prides himself on being
very caring for his « residents » and contributing to a
better world.

In the paradise of the Camargue « jungle »

Thus,
last summer, during its traditional annual break, the troop decided
to open the doors of its business – located in Aimargues (30) – to
the public and the media. « We had the idea of organizing
some guided tours so that people would enjoy approaching the animals,
but also that they would find that they were healthy and happy, »
said the director of the establishment at one of the visits. And hey,
it works! From May to September, young and old were able to access
this « Jungle Park » and its « Ark » to admire
llamas, dromedaries, yaks, cows or ponies « in near freedom »
according to the referent of the site, quoted by Midi Libre. For an
hour this was skilfully orchestrated, tourists also had the
opportunity to be moved by the hugs of a tamer towards her “big
babies” the tigers and to attend one of the “five daily showers”
of elephants Mina and Kamala, the former co-detainees of
Lechmee… The latter, also captured as a child within her free
family in Asia, is finally retired after 40 years of slavery, thanks to the pressure that we exerted on this circus. But the establishment
affirms today, without blushing, to have decided by itself to give
respite to the old lady … Because at Medrano, « we love
animals!  »

Mina and Kamala are in danger

Unfortunately,
Mina and Kamala are still subjected to forced labour and ridiculous
acrobatics obtained by the use of pikes. Both in their 50s, they have
sacrificed their lives enough to the whims of their captors. When
will they taste a life of peace and tranquillity? For the moment, it
is enough to observe them, to measure their immense distress. When
they are at rest, not summoned to parade through the streets or hoist
their bruised bodies upon stools, they sink into lethargy. Their
muddy baths only show a slight change to an uninformed public. Their
daily reality is quite different. In a paddock devoid of enrichment,
without the slightest place to take refuge and privacy, watered with
a garden hose that they suck like a rescue straw, they are exposed to
the eyes, their own eyes empty of hope. Like metronomes they swing
their trunks backwards and forwards to every second, they have
nothing to do but follow the tempo of their continual boredom.

Outlaw Circus

By
opening its menagerie to onlookers, the Medrano circus says it wants
to be transparent, but in fact only sprinkles glitter on its
business. Worse, it acts illegally and puts both humans and animals
in danger. As we immediately informed the Prefecture of Gard, the
operator has neither the necessary authorization nor the criteria
required to meet the regulatory obligations of the facilities of
zoological establishments presenting wild individuals to the public.
Regarding Mina and Kamala, they are kept away from children by a
simple low intensity electrical tape! What will happen if one or the
other decides to escape one day?

Following
our alerts, the Prefecture of Gard ended up revoking its circus
permit to open before the start of the summer season. Alas, at the
start of this fall, the itinerant spectacle resumed the road towards
Brittany with, this time, the approval of the Prefect of the
Côtes-d’Armor. We have just ordered him to report the operator’s
offenses again. Will our call be followed up by an answer? If not, we
will take them to court! Whatever happens, we will continue to fight
so that Mina and Kamala get out of this hell hole as quickly as
possible!

In battle for Boulie, the “circus” hippopotamus

In battle for Boulie, the « circus » hippopotamus

In battle for Boulie, the “circus” hippopotamus
08.10.2019
France
In battle for Boulie, the “circus” hippopotamus
Exploitation for shows

Boulie is along with Jumbo the other hippo who is currently being used by a French circus. If it benefits from a more sophisticated communication than that of the Muller circus, its existence is of course of the same order: solitary slavery. We file a complaint for Boulie.

We can’t deny that: William Kerwich, director of the Royal Kerwich circus, the general delegate of the Circus Collective, has understood how much our fight has been for the liberation of Jumbo, held by the Muller circus. More over for circuses in general to be without animals. So, he deploys “communication” as a smoke-screen around “his” hippo Boulie…

« What happiness! »

The images posted on his circus Facebook page should not be misleading: Boulie is shown there in a temperary pool and also in a muddy water hole at the edge of the field which must be her winter quarters. In fact, many Internet users congratulate the circus on the good care given to animals, one even going so far as to conclude: « Adorable! Animals love to play and show off! Reality! What happiness. » Objective achieved, finally with those who believe in it, and who want to believe in it at all costs.

Because the place of a hippopotamus will and must never be in the cages of an itinerant circus or under the crushing sun of the Côte d’Azur and where none of them should exist. Even when out of water and if watered from time to time, this fundamentally gregarious animal is found here, in the presence that is Boulie, the only representative of its species. Alone and kept captive in an environment that has nothing to do with her essential needs: swimming freely, which relieves her joints, free fodder, the calm of the nights in the thickets bordering the river, and a permanent communication, in and out of the water, with its congeners…

Abusive messages

So do not confuse good « communication » with reality, because between the two the gap is large. Boulie is thus present on certain recent posters of a circus with a totally misleading dialogue. One of them entitled: « Closer to the animals », and even boasts an intuitive educational and cultural show: « with animals from a breeding and preservation program for species monitored by state veterinarians », a program we would love to know all about! It sounds like social work, a humanitarian action, when it comes to a wild species which is over exhibited and lugged around from pillar to post. A true work of wildlife conservation, without a doubt! It goes without saying that the circus obviously does not have a permit to be a zoological park, any more than for it to be a « day care centre« . Furthermore, the newly opened winter quarters which are open to the public do not comply with the regulations of a zoological park.

In an article about this “really” Royal circus, we see a photo showing a trainer feeding Boulie and which is captioned: “Rodolphe Kerwich (eighth generation artist) and Boulie. They are both 21 years old and grew up together.” One would almost cry in front of so much love, but the first character here, the trainer, is free and the second, the hippo, is held and exhibited to the public, before and during a show, without any particular artistic interest what so ever (to climb upon a platform, oh such a beautiful affair!). The impact of such shows is totally counterproductive in terms of teaching, especially for children who should never be led to believe that an animal, wild by nature, can ever be happy in a circus.

A prisoner, that’s all she is, strolling along the roads then to be thrown into a pasture full of noisy and hilarious audiences, over and over again.

Boulie, Jumbo: the same fight

The fight for Jumbo will soon arrive on the judicial front: indeed, the trial for ill-treatment will finally take place. We are not fooled by the reality which is that of Boulie and we file a complaint for ill-treatment, ill-treatment committed by a professional. Placement or maintenance of a captive wild animal in a habitat, environment or installation that may be the cause of suffering and exploitation. Improper holding of non-domestic animals, violation of the conservation of non-domestic animal species… We hope that the judges will hear the argument that the life offered to such an animal, protected, can only be suffering , even in disguise… and of which we cannot laugh either, when Boulie escaped the circus in 2018 to go for a walk in the vegetable patch of a local person living near the marquees as in our video of this summer 2019. An unusual variety of facts revealing in fine detail all the lack of seriousness with which one considers the life of a living being and the way in which in reality only shows suffering and loneliness of this hippo.

Support the fight for Boulie by sending a message to the Prefect of Var:

  • via the contact form on the Prefecture website
  • via postal mail, taking inspiration for example from the letter download it here, at: Préfecture du Var boulevard du 112ème Régiment d´Infanterie, 83070 Toulon, France

Please continue to sign and share our petition for #CirquesSansAnimaux.

From primary forests to the urban jungle: Manu clothing label

From primary forests to the urban jungle: Manu clothing label

From primary forests to the urban jungle: Manu clothing label
07.10.2019
World
From primary forests to the urban jungle: Manu clothing label
Fashion

The last brand labelled FFR by One Voice from Lacoste does not get overlooked! On the contrary, it is adorned with its finest attire and parades on the podiums. Currently in a showroom, the Manu collection by Manu Ithier is the launching pad for this line of streetwear with Southern accents and feline eyes. Guaranteed fur-free sneakers and sweatshirts: the high-end of tomorrow’s urban fashion… sorry: today’s!

The young 32-year-old designer has just formalized the commitment of his brand, both contemporary and with ethnic accents, not to use fur at all, and to go even further in the years to come with the use of vegetable leather.

Double commitment for animals!

Our partnership allows part of the benefits of the fall-winter range of the « Manu » collection (on sale soon on his website), currently in a showroom at Milan Fashion Week, to go directly to animals and the wild universe which Manu Ithier was inspired for the next season. Because he wants to assert loudly his commitment to the planet and to animals. Foxes, minks, chinchillas … all these poor beings must stop being held in cages and then killed in excruciating pain for the vanity of the few.

Youth and know-how

To dress the feet and to clothe his contemporaries flows through the veins of Manu Ithier. Born into the world of fashion within a family that often travelled, he made this travels the foundation of his inspiration.

The modernity of its line seems to come out of the most modern Asian conceptions, this is no wonder for someone who visits Hong Kong on regular basis. His sneakers are high, designed as futuristic objects and of absolute comfort, as we imagine that can be lynx or puma pads. After growing up in France, Brazil and Spain, we also find Manu’s Latin origins in his name, as well as in his materials, many of which come from Italy (including know-how), where he currently stays for part of the year.

A partnership with One Voice, it’s obvious…

Manu Ithier is an urban designer, who incorporates leopard spots and cats’ eyes in his prints. All this could only be in accordance with the philosophy of One Voice, whose logo is a tiger and which is so open to the world!

What could be better to counterbalance the start of the school year, when the stores are going to fill up again with pieces tainted with cruelty, than labelling the Fur Free Retailer program with a young and urban collection like « Manu »? Quality streetwear, the « jungle » against the use of fur? We can only applaud this and we advise you to run and do the same!